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saviourseph ([personal profile] saviourseph) wrote2010-07-25 12:34 pm

And this is from someone I get along with...

And since you mentioned oppression, when was the last time a homosexual friend of yours was killed for his orientation? I understand the oppression the gay community faces, I truly do, but to compare it to people like Martin Burnham who literally was shot down when all he was trying to do was benefit those who were oppressing him... That's an entirely different level of oppression.

It could just be that I know more christians than I know homosexuals, but I've never gotten an email informing me that a homosexual was killed for his beliefs and yet I get all too many saying the same for christian martyrs. Comparing political and/or social oppression to martyrdom isn't exactly fair, now is it?
Yeah, I've had enough. Sorry, [livejournal.com profile] _lysia_ , but I can't stay around there when it's getting me so worked up. I'm sure the other mods will pick up the slack in my absence.

Bye, LP. It's been real.

[identity profile] paulnolan.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently I shouldn't compare LGBTQ oppression to the ~real~ kind Christians face. Queer people never get killed just for being queer, after all, while there are so many Christian martyrs.

This was the last straw. A pity, really - I used to love that forum. :(

[identity profile] evilgmbethy.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
what forum is this? yeesh. I don't blame you, I couldn't stick around that either.

[identity profile] paulnolan.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
Legends Place - a pretty big Zelda forum that I (used to) moderate.

[identity profile] evilgmbethy.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
that's too bad. it sucks when internet places start to become intolerable.

[identity profile] paulnolan.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
I did go kind of apeshit on him for this comment before I left though, don't worry. :)

[identity profile] fruhlings.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
uhhh wow. o.O

[identity profile] burningmarl.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, I was just coming back from Church and feeling really chilled and happy. ARGH. SHUT UP FELLOW CHRISTIANS. JUST SHUT UP.

[identity profile] thebigbadbutch.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
What? Who are are all these Christians being murdered for being Christian in America. I mean I always hear Christians screaming about how they are oppressed for their beliefs but I don't know any who have actually been killed for them. I'm a Christian and I've always felt pretty comfortable saying that cause I'm pretty sure even if I were attacked by it some Christian police officer would be on the scene to handle the case, and the prosecuting and defending lawyers in my assailants case would probably be Christians, and the judge would probably be Christian, and everyone on the jury would probably be Christian.

I have however been kicked out of 2 organizations, almost failed from a class, suspended, threatened with expulsion (as in I had to go to a hearing about it), and beaten up several times because of my sexual orientation. SO...I don't know what the fuck these Christians are talking about.

[identity profile] paulnolan.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Srsly.

And sorry you've had it so rough. People suck. :(
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[identity profile] ardwynna-m.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
That is vile.

[identity profile] bludstone.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I would have asked her if this included the pedo priests. :/

Thats some fucked up shit right there. Christians and their permanent victim status. :/

[identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You are seriously kidding me?! Someone who thinks Christians are more oppressed than gay people? I have not the words
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[identity profile] haruhiko.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my god, are you fucking kidding me????????? What a fucking colossally stupid douchebag.

[identity profile] daveisdead.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone has a persecution complex! Where did this shit go down?

[identity profile] paulnolan.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Legends Place (a pretty big forum for the Zelda fandom that I was a mod on). I've been thinking of leaving for a while now (lots of this kind of shit going down and most of the people I actually went there because of had gone) but I felt I should be responsible and stick around, being a mod and all. But yeah... this made me reach breaking point; I called him out on his shit and left.

[identity profile] daveisdead.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
That guy seems like an asshole. Someone should force him to play the CD-I Zelda games as a punishment.

[identity profile] synesis.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
What the fucking fuck? Leaving is the right choice, jesus fucking christ.

[identity profile] redstar826.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
oh ick. Shit like that drives me crazy. Sorry you had to deal with that. I don't blame you for not wanting to be involved with that community any more.

[identity profile] bluetooth16.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)


As a Christian, I apologize for this person's idiocy.

[identity profile] paulnolan.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
No need to apologise on behalf of Christians - I know you're not all bad. :)

Although I don't think I've found a Southern Baptist (the sect this guy belongs to) I can stand yet...

[identity profile] bluetooth16.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Southern Baptists are indeed nuts.
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[personal profile] chaobell 2010-07-25 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
...really, LP person? REALLY?

Man, fuck that.

[identity profile] gunnhildr.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, those crazy Christians and their martyrdom complexes. Have these stupid fucks ever heard of Matthew Shepard?

[identity profile] paulnolan.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 12:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Shepard made it into my calling out, actually (as did the Holocaust - I felt the gravity was needed).

[identity profile] rooking.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
BAW, I'M BEING OPPRESSED

Fuck her, she doesn't know shit.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_lysia_/ 2010-07-26 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry to hear you had to leave for that reason :(

[identity profile] paulnolan.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
It's been on the cards for some time, if I'm honest - mostly revolving around the sexuality thread - so much moralising and hatred about something that really shouldn't be up for debate. Also, most of my favourite posters (Maz, EA, LTHLF, mintylim, Goldcut, Cid) have either left or barely post anymore - it just wasn't the same there. :(

That exchange wasn't anything particularly unique; it was just the last straw in a long line of problems.

Like I said, I'm sure the other mods will manage fine without me (although if you need more, I'll put in a suggestion for Stal - he's one of the most level-headed regular members and he's in Britain, so he'll cover the times I was around pretty much the same).

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_lysia_/ 2010-07-28 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
I read the topic and it didn't seem like that big a deal (I think I was expecting some sort of rage-filled post XD) but I understand. I'm sad that you'll be leaving, but I know what you mean about other members leaving too. It's normal in forum communities, especially ones that have been around for a few years, but it's always sad!

Thanks for the mod suggestion! If you recommend anyone else please let me know, I find it hard to keep up these days and usually the people I would trust and want to promote aren't so active themselves anymore >.

[identity profile] wrongly-amused.livejournal.com 2010-07-27 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm trying to wrap my mind around that, but it's just a continuous stream of WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK

(HAS HE NEVER WATCHED THE NEWS? EVER?)